Was at MS this past weekend, and noticed a couple machines that aren't in the database. In the Hall of Lost Tribes casino, there is a single $5 full-pay PE machine (TITO gamemaker, also had 9/6 JoB), and a single $5 3/5 play 9/6 JoB machine. They're adjacent to each other, and located on your immediate right as you enter the Hall of Lost Tribes from the entrance closest to the parking garage / bus area. I also noticed at least three $0.25 full-pay PE machines (gamemakers, don't remember if they were TITO) in the non-smoking area of the Sky casino behind the blackjack tables. They were mixed in with short-pay games, so check the paytables if you play there.

There's a single $25 (and a $10) GameMaker in the elevatedpart of the high roller section in the old casino.

Just got back from Mohegan and all the bartops are multi game, multi denomination games. .5, .25, 1.00. I think they are game kings. The JOB at the dollar level is full pay. Some of the machines allow you to play 10-coins instead of five. I noticed at least one at each bar. Also, the bank of dollar FP pickum were out of service and being worked on. The tech said it was a software upgrade. Hopefully, they didn't change the pay tables. Just remembered that the sports bar is the only one with out the multi denomination games. The bar in the Hall of Lost tribes is TITO. I think that all the bars will be TITO eventually.

I've been told that my theo is $1400 per trip. I average 30-40K and would put the theo closer to 4%. Then again, there seems to be very few people working at MS that know what their talking about.

You only need one hour of play at $5/hand (ie. 5 x $1) to be admitted into a lounge (sachem, feather, or arrow). You can get 24 hrs of lounge access for every day that qualifies, but they will only look back 30 days. He let me see my computer screen which showed my numbers (theos, avg's, etc.) None of the hosts who have seen my account were able to tell whether I was playing slots or VP; they treated it as the same game. No where did my screen show an actual loss, just the theoreticals. Using simple division, and having played only $1 PE, I was able to determine the theo they use for this is almost exactly 6%. I was interested in finding out what one needed to get comp concert tickets. Ced told me they look at 2 criteria. Your present 4 month average theo (per day), and your 1 year gross theo; you need to pass both. The requirement varies from show to show and can vary from day to day based on whether the artist has become more or less popular than expected. So I asked about an average show like Dolly Parton (now sold out of comp's). For her you needed a 4 month avg theo of $600, and a year gross theo of $30K. For Cher it got as high as $1500 avg theo. before it went back down. The gross theo is generally going to be 50 times the avg theo. So they "expect" you to gamble at least 50 days/yr; if you were there only 25, you'd have to gamble twice as much on the days you're there. While this might be the criteria for shows, it might similarly apply to other comps as well. Haaljo has written you need a $35K yr gross theo for Sagamore and $50K for Sachem cards. What is interesting that I've been told by other hosts as well is that gambling only a little on some days is worse than not gambling at all since it will lower your 4 month avg.

As far as Sagamore status, I have been told that your host proposes you and a committee passes on the application. They are looking for history over a couple years as well as play level, since this status is seldom revoked once granted. As previously discussed, there is little benefit other than immediate lounge access and parking. You need a $35K yr gross theo for Sagamore and $50K for Sachem cards. I got a Sagamore card in the mail today, played there since March. Put in 50K+ per day about once a week.

The bar at the Hall of the Lost Tribes (non-smoking area of old casino) has TITO multi-demon games with 9/6 JOB at the $1 level. Couldn't get to see if this is for all the machines or just some. Also the bar at the racebook has 9/6 on the $1 coin machines (they have been around for a long time, but I didn't see them on the database.)

The bar in the hall of lost tribes has $1 and $2 9-6 JOB.

I was at Mohegan twice last week and I found a .25 fifty play machine in the new casino near the daily swipe machines that had FP Super Aces. I did not have a chance to check the others since people were playing them. I'm sure these were there since they opened the new section.

The new high-limit area is in the Casino of the Sky in the large open area adjacent to the Wombi Rock. The reason I call it the new high-limit area is because the smaller high-limit area in the original or as I call it the old casino was there first. These are the only high-limit areas in the MS casino as far as I know.

The Sagamore at MS gets you 20% off the Casino rate, guaranteed hotel reservations, preferrred parking, invites to all shows and a host who never returns calls. I'm not aware of a similar program at Foxwoods. I'm a Sagamore member so I know the requirements are not 50K a day or they made a mistake by sending me a card. My guess would be more like 25K/day. I've always assumed that the Sachem card is the high roller card and required 50K per day or more. I asked how to get a Sagamore or Sachem card like some of our friends. She said you have to "lose" $35k for Sagamore and $50K for Sachem. Figure that must mean theoretical but no idea what they use for percentage and over how long a period of time. It has to be over a period of time rather than one trip. I wouldn't be reading about VP if I could afford a theo loss of $35K in one trip! At 3% that would be over a million dollars of action. So. IF (that's a big if) the host gave good information, I would speculate a $35K theo loss over one year I've been told my theo is $1500 per trip. Most of my trips are overnight avg 50-60K. my guess is they're using a theo of 3% or so.

I have received 2 coupons for $125 each to use at Mohegan Sun for two periods in Dec. They are good for all goods and services in the Hotel,Spa, and retail shops. My wife received one for $20 and 1 for $30. I was curious if anyone received a higher denomination and if you did, at what rate/game do you play? Thanks. I avg 4 to 6 hours at $1 JOB once every 1 to 2 months.

(7) $1 9/6 JoB slant-tops near the Wolf Den Bar downgraded to 9/5.May still be a few $1 9/6 at the Bow and Arrow bar.