Revised Players Club Info effective 10/1/12. More information here. Note that the Mississippi and Detroit casinos are different than the Las vegas casinos per footnote #1.

Comps at MGM are a mystery. They use something based on last 6 trips but if you have comps when you start and then play, your comp balance will be reduced. Best thing to do is use your comps before you start playing. Otherwise, you will be in for a rude surprise.

MIA: $0.25 and $0.50 Pick 'Em games on the Bally Gamemakers have been shorted. Full Pay Pick'Em remains at the $1 level.

Comps at MGM: 1) Winning definitely reduces and/or eliminates comps. 2) If you have a comp balance, play a little, and then ask for the comp, it may not be there. Your current day's play will affect your comp balance. 3) Get your comp before you play. Even better, get your comp and use your comp before you play. 4) Use MGM comps as soon as you can. They are use them or lose but MGM will not give the conditions on how you lose them. MGM is going with " Comps are a gift from us so we can do what we want". They are also doing very well in the market share area. I see no reason to give MGM a penny's worth of play. They have taken lessons from Harrahs on how to spit on your best customers.

MGM now has Full Pay Pick'Em on the new Game Maker HDs. But the other games are: 7/5 Jacks or Better, 8/5 Double Double Bonus, 6/5 Super Aces, 7/5 White hot Aces, etc.

There is $5/$10 9/6 ddb in the high limit area. $1 9/5 ddb prog machines also have joker poker 98.59% $0.25-$1 joker poker 98.59% also available - spin machines.

Since the new casino opened this month and all of the machines from the old casino were not moved to the new casino, you can remove any comments dated before

. Comps are definitely harder to get. None of the high end restaurants seem to have comps available for the lower end player regardless of comp balance.

*** MIA - *** $1/$5/$10 PKM 25c/$1 9/7 DB. 25c 9/7 DB PROG.

MGM Grand Detroit opens new casino Best games are 50c/$1 9/5 DDB and 8/5 JoB - best 25c games are 8/5 DDB and 7/5 JoB

At MGM, most of the $1 pick'em are gone, but some remain at on bartops. Virtually total VP wasteland as the entire crappy VP inventory is excluded from most promotions. Rumor has it MGM will sell this property to Harrah's and rebrand Motor City after they take over Mandalay.

MGM sent me a pack of 4 coupons, each good for 2 dinners at their relatively new Lion's Roar pub / sports bar. "Big deal", I thought, "a couple hundred thou of coin-in chasing (and occasionally catching) the 9/7 DB progressive, and all I get is comps for bar food." Man, was I wrong! Generally superb chow, on a par or better than any of the snooty restaurants in downtown Ann Arbor (my hometown).

MGM has been rapidly replacing all VP machines with TITO, including the bank of MG progressives with 9/7 DB, and the entire roomful located to the left of the buffet entrance. Be forewarned, however, that all of these machines are mounted very high, MGM badly needs either shorter cabinets or taller chairs. I'm 6'0" and had to reach up to play. Some of the machines are set on the fastest of the three speeds, and some allow the player to select a speed. This cannot be determined until you start playing. Also, if your intention is to play 5-coin max quarters, look very closely at the machine before you begin. They have quarters that require a 20-coin max bet for the Royal bonus.

Stopped at the booth yesterday and started asking specific questions about their points and cashback. The obviously annoyed boothling finally gave up and fished out a small sheet that lists the info. $2 coin-in (slots) = 1 point $6 coin-in (VP) = 1 point 100 points = $1 There is a slight increase in the points awarded for $5 machine play, $5 = 3 points. Apparently this doesn't apply to VP, which is no big deal since the $5/up pay schedules are horrible. I couldn't obtain comp rate info, is not on the sheet and the response I got was a look that can be best described as dazed and confused.